Can Real Life Superheroes Fight Crime?

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May 03, 2015
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Jon Ronson is the author of "The Psychopath Test" and "So You've Been Publicly Shamed," as well as the audio documentary series called "The Butterfly Effect"

My dangerous idea is “Can real-life superheroes surpass the police in crime-fighting?”

Now, this isn’t really my idea, it’s the idea of a real-life superhero in Seattle called Phoenix Jones. I spent a bunch of time with Phoenix and with other real-life superheroes across America.

We turned the corner and it’s like three o’clock in the morning at Belltown, in Seattle, and it was like The Wire. This group of guys were saying, “What are you doing coming here with your superhero costumes? This may be fun and games to you but it’s not fun and games to us. This is how we feed our families.”

I was obviously nodding in agreement with everything the crack dealers were saying, in the hope that if the shooting started they’d considerately remember to shoot around me. The superheroes all had bulletproof vests on—I had on like a T-shirt and a cardigan. And I still had my suitcase with me, actually.

Eventually the crack dealer said to Phoenix, “If you don’t get off our block, we’re going to show you what the burner do.” Those were his very words. So I thought I remembered from watching The Wire that a burner was a stolen mobile phone, but that didn’t sound contextually right at all—yeah, “if you don’t get off our block we’ll show you our stolen mobile phones?”—so I said to Phoenix, “What’s a burner?” Phoenix said, “It’s a gun.” And then they all came towards us, about four or five of these guys, all came towards us with their hands down their pockets, and then one of them whispered, “If you don’t get off our block, we’re going to kill you.”

And then they all gathered at the bottom and then Phoenix said to his superhero cohorts, “Do we stand or do we leave?” And they both went, “We stand.”

I was utterly terrified. I mean, I’ve done a lot of dangerous things in my line of work, but this felt really like this could be the end. I was utterly terrified. Then they all started walking towards us, and they got to us, and one of them said, “You are seriously willing to do for this?” And Phoenix said, “Yeah.” And he said, “Well if you’re going to be so stupid as to die for this, then I guess we’re going to have to go home.” And they all dispersed and went home. And so Phoenix won. Phoenix won.

Phoenix said, “We’re going to stay for an hour and consolidate the block do you want to stay with us?” And I said, “No I do not!” So I went back to my hotel where my legs buckled, and gave way, and I fell onto the floor.

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