Can An Evil Man Be A Decent Person?

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January 20, 2018

How can someone be a monster — a brutal dictator, a mass murderer, a serial killer — and up close seem like a decent, caring person? In this hour, we tackle a complicated question: what happens when our moral categories fail and we find ourselves feeling empathy for monsters? Is that wrong? And what does it say about us?

The Trial of Saddam
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The young American soldiers who protected Saddam Hussein during his trial spent hours alone with the “Butcher of Baghdad” and unexpectedly grew to like him. They were devastated by his execution and its violent aftermath. 

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20:53
"The Nazi and the Barber" by Edgar Hilsenrath
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Paul Beatty, the Booker Prize Winning Author of “The Sellout"" recommends "The Nazi and the Barber,” a novel by Holocaust survivor Edgar Hilsenrath. 

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2:15
Norwegian memorial
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In 2011, nearly 70 teenagers were shot and killed in Norway. The gunman was a white supremacist named Anders Breivik. Journalist Asne Seierstad spent years trying to figure out how someone could do something so evil. 

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10:59
basketball rivals
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During basketball camp in Fargo, North Dakota, cultural critic Chuck Klosterman made an enemy — for life. And maybe that was a bad idea.

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3:37
Books and a figure
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There’s a theory that reading fiction helps us learn to understand other people — and in the process, become kinder, better, more empathetic ourselves.

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10:01
"My Friend Dahmer" by Derf Backderf
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What do you do when your buddy in high school turns out to be the serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer?

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3:03
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Airdates
July 30, 2017
January 20, 2018
Guests: 
Will Bardenwerper

Will Bardenwepper

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Adam Rogerson

Paul Beatty

Åsne Seierstad

Journalist

Chuck Klosterman

Commentator

Joshua Landy

Professor
Michael Tisserand

Michael Tisserand

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June 19, 2018